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Episode 9: The Everything Episode (Reboots, Exercise and Crisps!)

• Michael and Sameer • Season 1 • Episode 9

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Have you ever found yourself wheezing on an "attack bike" whilst your personal trainer feeds you Haribo's?! Join us this week as were we meant to chat about 'reboots' but end up talking about (almost) everything else! 

From Michael's recent escapade back into fitness, we switch gears to the small screen and dive into the world of reboots and sequels. We hash out our mixed feelings about the ever-evolving Grey's Anatomy (expect some spoiler alerts!) and reflect on the US Office as a rare reboot that outshines the original! Turning to reboots in real life, Michael and Sameer also speak about Trump's recent return to the political stage sparking a debate about whether he's the true OG of presidential reboots!

Given this is the everything episode our conversation takes a crunchy turn to our favourite food as we reminisce about the glory days of snack flavours with Michael showing off his immense talent for memorising the 'standard grammage' of crisps! To wrap things up, we leave you with our take on a very important question ... what is the one animal you would be most scared to come across?! 

This really is the least scripted episode we've recorded so far! But as always, we leave you with a reminder to practice self-care, and that no matter how life's treating you today there's always the ability to refresh your mindset with a reboot!

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Michael:

Welcome to this week's episode of the Best Men Podcast. I'm Michael and I'm Sameer, and if you found us, it means you're looking forward to sitting back and enjoying 30 minutes of two best friends taking the piss out of each other, debating life's big questions whilst ultimately learning how to become better men.

Sameer:

So sit back and enjoy this week's episode.

Michael:

Yo, yo, yo welcome to the pod.

Sameer:

What's going on, brother?

Michael:

Hi Sameer, how are you doing? That was very musical. I'm good. Thanks man, I'm good. How are you? I'm good, I'm good. Thanks man, I'm good. How are you? I'm good, I'm good. I'm feeling sore.

Sameer:

Why are?

Michael:

you feeling sore? Well, the big news this week Go on. I went to the gym. Oh my god, I know it's big news.

Sameer:

Wow, which tell me about this? You didn't even tell me this. I know, I know it was awful.

Michael:

What did? It was awful. What did you do at the gym, mate? I was vending machine. Um, he wasn't.

Sameer:

He's not a personal trainer, but he treated me like a personal trainer, right, okay, yeah, I did lots.

Michael:

I was just at reception no, so this guy um, I'm friends with right someone you don't know yet and this must be your best friend not best friend. He invited me around to get into shape and uh, this doesn't sound.

Sameer:

This what around his house or to the gym?

Michael:

Yeah, around his house. So during COVID he's a builder, during COVID he set up a personal gym. It's epic, it's amazing. It's got like mirror walls, got flat screen TV, mirror walls. It's got equipment. Okay, it's got an attack bike.

Sameer:

You ever heard of an attack bike? You ever heard of an attack bike? Never heard of this, never heard of this Death machine. What is that? Is that?

Michael:

like a peloton, no, no, no. It's like a bike that has arms and you pedal it like this.

Sameer:

Oh, it's like a cross trainer and a bike.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, but it's got like fans in it, so it's high resistance.

Sameer:

I have heard of this. It's awful house yeah, yeah okay, so it's not a gym, really, it's a guy's house.

Michael:

No, it's his outdoor gym.

Sameer:

It's like personal gym right, okay, it's bigger than it's bigger than my whole downstairs really big, really big. So you've known this guy for a while, good friend, and he said why don't you come around? You know, just wear your gym wear, come here. Well, first of all, I don't have gym wear, that's the first thing, just shorts and t-shirt.

Michael:

I will track tracks, bottoms and t-shirt. All right, nice. Um, honestly, I'm not gonna lie to you that's so good, that's amazing I um, I was, I was in such bad shape at the end of it yeah I had to walk maybe five minutes down the hill to my house. Yeah, it felt like I was drunk. I couldn't walk properly.

Sameer:

I couldn't walk properly um, to the point, like properly, like into fitness and stuff if he's got his own gym, he goes to he gyms out he gyms out that's not a phrase that's a phrase from someone who never goes to the gym. He gyms out, yeah, yeah, he's a proper jew. Works out, works out.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, works out he works out probably through three or four times a week, I guess wow, um, and she's got all the equipment I mean, I can't use any of that stuff right, right, just the attack bike.

Sameer:

But um.

Michael:

All I had was this bench, you know like a lie down bench thing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was like okay, do this with your arms. And then it's like gave me. He's like I will start you off easy. He gave me 15 kg weight and I was like dude this is too I think, glenn, I can't do this. Glenn, I'm really sorry. So, all right, we'll start. You'll go a bit easier, we'll go 12.5. I'm like glenn, I can't hold this you're gonna.

Michael:

Let's go single digits mate basically my arms like this, like I'm being crucified. Basically I was gonna be crucified on this is that how you did?

Sameer:

you start with a bit of stretching. Yeah, stretch, okay, start stretching, fine was that difficult?

Michael:

yeah, a bit. I used to be able to touch my toes quite easily when I was playing rugby back in the day, and now no.

Sameer:

No, okay, fine. So you attempted to touch your toes. Yeah, yeah, okay, you got on the floor. You stretched your legs. Yeah, yeah, good, little jog, little jog get the heart going?

Michael:

No, no, I didn't need a jog, so no cardio. To get the heart going, no cardio. No attack bike to get the heart going. No squats, this machine, we have to pull it and put it to your groin. You're going again. The weight on the machine is I will start you off with no weight, like just high resistance.

Sameer:

No way, I'm like okay, yes, yes yes, yes, you've just been, did he say, if you come to, my gym, you must say.

Michael:

He said I was like okay, yes, yes, yes, you've just been kidding, did he say.

Sameer:

if you come to my gym, you must say yes to everything.

Michael:

I was trying to be polite, Michael I need 50 quid. Yes, Okay. So we, he then made me do dips Okay.

Sameer:

Dip it low, da da da da.

Michael:

Like Christina Milian like christina millian, I'm not. I'm not a dips guy. I mean, I like you're a bit of a dip, oh, so sad. Have to go for a low blow, don't you? Oh, that was a good one. Um, dips can't do dips right. It goes to me. Oh, it's week one. I'll be easy on you, would you?

Sameer:

give me elastic band, elastic so I could lean on it.

Michael:

Oh okay, so the hardest bit is getting into that span. I couldn't even get into that span.

Sameer:

I was like my knees were going everywhere was glenn aware of your inability to do anything? Your levels? No, it doesn't sound like, because 15s are pretty, you know. Yeah, yeah, hard, that's quite tough. What did you? What did you do in the end? Like?

Michael:

six. No, no, he brought it down to like, I think, five. I think his wife does more than me. Wow, did you do a whole hour then, or no?

Sameer:

no, I did 45 minutes intense, very intense he was just laughing at me half the time brilliant is that that was his purpose for inviting you, I guess I don't know.

Michael:

I don't know if he likes transformations. You know, revenge, body stuff, I don't know maybe uh, anyway, long story, short favorite phrase, uh he goes right now, we're gonna, we're gonna finish, I think, thank god I'm so glad now we're gonna finish you know, when you're just, you're just hoping it's gonna end, you hope, you know it's just the end, isn't it?

Sameer:

yeah?

Michael:

right gets the bouncy ball. You know the what's it called not the bouncy school the ball. You know the round ball that you pregnant women sit on oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sameer:

What do they call those Exercise balls? Exercise balls.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like okay, right, we're going to do a minute plank, okay, and then we're going to go a minute on the attack bike. Then we go a minute plank, a minute on attack bike.

Sameer:

Where's the ball?

Michael:

coming he let me plank on the wall.

Sameer:

Oh, okay, got it, got it Okay fine.

Michael:

The ball's basically shaking around. My hands are holding it like this, like mate. Why are you praying? This ain't going to be over if you pray.

Sameer:

He's just laughing.

Michael:

I'm desperate. And then he goes right, okay, go to the bike, right? Yeah, go on the bike, for it wasn't for the fact there was wind blowing in my face, I'd been sick wow, how long minute.

Sameer:

And a half on the bike did you say well, it was supposed to be a minute then he said I want you to, then I want you to get to 15 calories okay fine, right, so it was about a minute minute, minute and a half Fine. Does that make you think about what you consume as calories? 15, one minute of 15 calories is death. That's like half a biscuit.

Michael:

He goes to me, he goes to me At the end of it. So here's the thing. I could only do two rounds.

Sameer:

Okay.

Michael:

At the end of it I had to stop. Yeah, I had to stop. He goes, that was 30 calories. It's nothing. That's not even a Kit Kat is it.

Sameer:

Yeah Sad. That's mad, isn't it?

Michael:

I mean I ate four Oreos today. That was 200 calories.

Sameer:

I mean, that makes me Well look, Quavers, my favorite crisps, I'm not sure what yours are. My favorite 97 calories, right, 30 calories is yeah, it's hard. It's tough man. Are you going to go back?

Michael:

Well, we'll get there in a minute, so I do it twice. The second time. I'm dead. I'm absolutely dead. I'm in pieces.

Sameer:

Yeah, I bet he is as well for different reasons he goes to me.

Michael:

You better go outside, you get some fresh air.

Sameer:

Do you know what he came and gave me?

Michael:

A Kit Kat. He came and gave me some Haribo. He said take some haribo to help you push your sugar.

Sameer:

I think like wow, did you go like? You must look like a ghost. I mean, you already look a bit ghost like. But I mean, if it went, he, he gave me the haribo.

Michael:

No word of a lie, I ate the haribo and I had to leave his house with the haribo, without with with the haribo of course. Okay, I left the house. Five minute walk home took me 15 to 20 minutes what around the pub. I look like I was so drunk. I couldn't. I was doing this, you know, when you're just so tired like a dementors have you ever been that tired? Yeah, yeah, I know, you mean, I was literally right you were gone came home Through the front door.

Sameer:

Was Alex worried? Walked straight through here.

Michael:

She must have been Walked straight through here. Alex was washing up. She's like, hey, how'd it go? And I was like, oh, walked straight here, face, face, planted the sofa. Oh my, god Turned my head to the left. Alex, get me a sick bucket. She brought me a sick bucket.

Sameer:

There's no way, you were throwing up an hour later.

Michael:

I didn't even realize I fell asleep. I was so wow so bad?

Sameer:

oh my so. Are you gonna make this a regular thing now with glenn I? Don't know, I think, maybe next time like in six months I see you and you look like uh, I don't know like you're beefed up. Well, kardashian well, maybe I don't know what Glenn's doing in that gym with you.

Michael:

I don't know. Glenn is like you know. First one's the hardest mate, it's the biggest hurdle to get over.

Sameer:

You've got to come back now yeah, luckily he doesn't listen to this pod, but well he might do after this.

Michael:

You never know. No, no, I haven't told Glenn about the pod it his house in the backyard. No, he's gonna hear me bitching about it um no, no, like credit to him. He said let's work out yeah, didn't realize I couldn't work out so this was his suggestion.

Sameer:

You didn't like realize he's got a gym at home. Let me just no, I know he's got a gym. Okay, do you?

Michael:

want to come out.

Sameer:

Work out went around there he basically was working me out and watching me and I felt bad at the end of the day. I'll be honest with you, that does not sound great. I hope Glenn doesn't listen. He was working me out and watching me.

Michael:

He was making me work out, yeah, and I felt bad. I was like I said to him at the end and I was like, listen, I'm sorry you haven't done anything. It's like, don't worry, I can do mine now.

Sameer:

I felt really bad. Oh, glenn he sounds nice.

Michael:

Truth be told, I thought, this is how I die. I thought after I collapsed on the sofa he was like oh yeah, the attack bike's hard, isn't it? It's like yeah, it's really hard. It's like yeah, it's working. It's going to be making. You're going to be burning calories through the night now not.

Sameer:

If you know me, mate, I'll be consuming them through the night. I'll say off those elbows. Anyway, so that was it.

Michael:

Today can't open my arms more than this.

Sameer:

Okay, this was yesterday. Was it Yesterday? Yeah, wow, okay. I wish I could say I've been as good, I've been awful this whole week. All I've been doing is eating shit lying down. I've done. No, I walked on the treadmill you Half an hour today. That's all I've done in a week.

Michael:

I have to say, exercise is one of those weird things I mean this week's pod is not about exercise. No, no, no, I mean it should be, but it's not. Yeah, should it be.

Sameer:

It could be, but you know that would deviate from everything. But whatever.

Michael:

No, no, no, this week's pod is something far more interesting.

Sameer:

Yeah, yeah yeah, exactly, exactly. So what did you?

Michael:

do when you were lying down.

Sameer:

Relaxing Lying down. I was watching TV shows. Right, I'm a big fan at the moment of Grey's Anatomy. Love it what.

Michael:

Yeah, you're watching Grey's.

Sameer:

I'm watching Grey's. What season are you on?

Michael:

I'm on like season 14. Oh, so Denny's dead. Now that's all right. What years?

Sameer:

um, but you should.

Michael:

Spoiler alert this because there'll be people listening. There's not one person other than you in the world that hasn't seen Grey's Anatomy um, and I'm watching it because you told me to watch it and I've been putting it off putting it off and you were like dude.

Sameer:

It's amazing. So I watch a lot of Grey's have you seen the plane yet?

Michael:

has that? It's a plane, the plane. How sad is that? Very, very sad, really sad. I think I was. I was in pieces after I'll be honest.

Sameer:

Be honest with you. I have cried. I've cried watching Grey's Anatomy, and my wife has as well, and together I've seen her. I was so transfixed on one of the episodes I looked at her.

Michael:

She's got tears rolling down her cheeks and I'm like dude, I'm so upset. Mcsteamy, right, yeah, yeah.

Sameer:

Is McDreamy still in it? No, mcdreamy was what we got, what we got sad about, oh, yeah, yeah, that was. And if people don't know what we're talking about, we're trying to be specifically. I was trying to work out if you knew, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the worst. That's the worst.

Michael:

I did not see it coming the only thing I hate about Grey is Grey is Grey.

Sameer:

She's the worst. She's the worst character. How can you have the whole like 20 seasons on the worst?

Michael:

character.

Sameer:

Yeah, you still got another six seasons to go and you told me from like season what is it 10? Maybe onwards it gets really good. Season 10 was yeah, unbelievable goes downhill yeah, singing episode awful.

Michael:

I don't even understand that one. Every show at one point did a singing episode.

Sameer:

It's terrible.

Michael:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it goes down, then it goes right back up.

Sameer:

Yeah, yeah.

Michael:

Now Shonda's all about, you know, championing for rights.

Sameer:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Michael:

The new season's like have you started watching the new?

Sameer:

season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay fine, it's just the new season just came.

Michael:

No, whatever it is, but yeah basically that's what I was doing Watching shows, watching. But this week's theme, this week's topic the reboot.

Sameer:

Yes, the reboot.

Michael:

Reboots, sequels, prequels, all that good stuff.

Sameer:

Here's my thing, oh go on.

Michael:

Have you ever seen a reboot that's better than the original?

Sameer:

Have I ever seen a reboot that's better than the original Of a TV show or of a movie?

Michael:

Or either Both, any. I think there's one clear answer.

Sameer:

Okay, what are you going to say? Like Wednesday.

Michael:

No, no, no. Do you think Wednesday is better than the original? I think your favorite show that you could watch anything.

Sameer:

Oh, the Office, the US Office. The US Office is a million times better than the original. The US office is a million times better than the original.

Michael:

Speaking of the reboot, yes, we just had an election. We did A few weeks ago.

Sameer:

We found out that Trump was reelected Mad.

Michael:

I mean, I know you said he's the original reboot, he is the original. You were saying a while ago that you were like it would be monumentally impressive if Americans voted for Kam kamala and mate. Obviously they're not. Yeah, it's really sad, like when you see. It's like we tried, but now it's about peace and it's not about what party, it's about the constitution of the united states in america. Oh my god, listen, you lost. End of story. The nutter is in power. Yeah, bring on four years of insanity it's pretty crazy though, isn't it?

Sameer:

it's pretty mad, did you?

Michael:

see his speech when he came out trump's, I haven't, I haven't bought oh, it's really it's like so we did it. It was great, uh, and I got the popular vote, which is nice, yeah, and we got the senate we got the house. We got the Senate we got the House, we got everything. Guys, it's a home run.

Sameer:

I'm like, Is that your Trump voice? No, not really. It was kind of all right. You know it was better than I was thinking it was going to be. I'm not a good Trump. Better than your accents. Your accents aren't good but your. Trump voice is pretty good.

Michael:

Got more trance than Kamala. Yeah, kamala, maybe her name was Pamela.

Sameer:

Yeah.

Michael:

Pamela would have been good If it was Pamela Harris. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. She probably got better chance of winning?

Sameer:

Probably probably, but I think, mate, when this happened, everyone was saying it was going to be so close. It's going to be so close.

Michael:

It was close.

Sameer:

Not really Like. Trump won everything.

Michael:

He won everything. It was close, Dude. He won everything, Like you said, House.

Sameer:

Senate all this 240 to 310? Mate? It's not close. In the grand scheme of things, it's not close. In fact, I saw a stat somewhere which said how did Harris do versus Biden? She didn't beat Biden's performance in any single county across the whole of the United States.

Michael:

I think they messed that up. I think they're all imbeciles.

Sameer:

You should run. You should become an American citizen and run. I'd vote for you. What would your number one policy be? Number one policy if you were a leader of men and women? What number one policy would you have? High?

Michael:

taxes.

Sameer:

Brilliant. Okay, now why don't you do a policy that's going to get you elected? Free free gyms for everyone at glenn's glenn's gyms what's your favorite crisp? That's been rebooted, oh what's my favorite crisp that's been rebooted yeah from old. I really, really like a this is a out there flavor scampi and lemon knickknack scampi and I very rarely have it or ribbon saucy. That are okay I'm going out on a ledge here the best names for any crisps are nicknacks are knickknacks, knickknacks come out with the best names.

Michael:

Yeah, knickknacks are funny. Scampi and lemon, ribbon sauce, lemon. What's lemon? I said lemon. Scampi and lemon Lemon.

Sameer:

I think you've had a scampi lemon once A scampi lemon, ribbon saucy. And what's? The chili one? I can't remember the chili one, but whatever it is, that's my favourite one. Mate, come on.

Michael:

Do you know? Crisps used to be better flavoured, but because of the salt and all of that, they've really toned them down. Have you noticed?

Sameer:

Yeah, and you get reduced fat ones, which I don't understand. If you're going to have a reduced fat crisp, don't have a crisp. My issue with crisps is the grammage, the grammage.

Michael:

Why is this, though, in a bag of crisps.

Sameer:

Half is empty. Now, no, no, no, it doesn't matter how much is empty, the, the emptiness is important, the the packet is pumped so that the crisps stay crunchy and the air protects them.

Michael:

Okay, fine, it's like a pillow. Fine, fine, fine, yeah, my like an airbag, exactly airbags. My problem is, since when was it acceptable for 13 grams of quavers to be in a packet?

Sameer:

What did it used to be? I mean, you're the crisp connoisseur?

Michael:

I don't. Standard grammage was 25 when I was growing up, Really Double Basically, and when you went and when you bought a single packet, standard Walker's grammage was 34.5 grams.

Sameer:

Wow Grab bag standard grammage 50 grams. But this is why, you know me, I will just hammer down a whole tube of Pringles.

Michael:

My issue is it's now become normal to eat six bags of crisps?

Sameer:

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Whose standard are you judging? Yours? Is it normal for you to have six bags of crisps?

Michael:

You get a big bag of crisps like a big bag, grab, share, bag, whatever. It's around 60 grams, right?

Sameer:

I don't know the gramage. Off the top of my head it's 60 grams, right.

Michael:

60.2 grams, obviously, say I get you a big bag of Doritos. It's going to be about 150 grams. Okay, big bag, okay. I buy a pack of Quavers, six of them, 13 grams each. Yeah, suddenly you become Rain man man, that's all of a sudden in four bags, that's. That's 52 grams. I've eaten.

Sameer:

Okay, it's the same as a grab bag if I go get meal deal before you know it. Six, you're telling me. Four bags of quavers are the same as a grab bag of walkers. Yeah well, anyone out there.

Michael:

You're making a mistake if you're having quavers like me 13 times 4, 13 and 13, 26, 26 times same as 50.

Sameer:

If I chuck some marbles on the floor. Now will you be able to?

Michael:

count them just with your eyes.

Sameer:

When it comes to crisps, I know the numbers Honestly. Dude, I mean obviously you've done your homework.

Michael:

my friend Michael's patelliatus, mastermind Specialist. Subject grammage of crisps.

Sameer:

Grammage ofps. Grammage of Quavers 1992. What was the grams? 16.4 Correct.

Michael:

So yeah, do you remember the the prawn cocktail quavers? Ever had those? I?

Sameer:

have not had the prawn cocktail. I love prawn cocktail crisps. My wife's favourite flavour, by the way Of crisp, is prawn cocktail. Do you? Know what my favourite Limited is which you can only get Walkers here Prawn cocktail. You can't get them anywhere else in the world. Really, Did you know that? Didn't know that?

Michael:

Right reboots then Gladiators come back. My daughter loves that Gladiators ready. She's four years, five years old and she loves watching.

Sameer:

What does she love?

Michael:

about it? I'm not really sure. I've never asked her. She just loves it. I think she loves people getting pummeled.

Sameer:

Okay, fine.

Michael:

Like father, like daughter.

Sameer:

So I haven't seen much of the new ones, but do you rate them compared to the old ones?

Michael:

With.

Sameer:

Ulrika Johnson and Hunter and Wolf. They're good. The new ones are good as well.

Michael:

Are there? New challenges, loads of new challenges.

Sameer:

Really.

Michael:

Loads of new challenges, loads new challenges, but ultimately it's still people battering each other, but they've got worse. They've got physically so much worse. What do you mean?

Sameer:

as in it's like nfl, it's like two people, oh, you actually get.

Michael:

Yeah, they get totally bad the irony is, throughout this series of competitions, very little number of people actually make it to the end, because it will pull out of injuries really there's only so many steroid injections you get in your knee to go through a competition.

Sameer:

Would you, if they paid you, to go on gladiators? Would you go? Not as a gladiator, obviously, as a contestant, I don't think I'd do very well. But look, you're training with Glenn now. I mean, glenn, could I don't know, get you properly in shape and you could go on gladiators? We could go together.

Michael:

Maybe Celebrity special. Let's do this.

Sameer:

What do you mean? Celebrity? What are you Celebrity special of two people with ten people listening on their podcast Celebrities, the famous celebrities from the Best man podcast, michael and Samir.

Michael:

Oh, michael, to me.

Sameer:

Oh, michael, you're looking good glenn's been uh working on you um, could you? Ever go vegan, um no no, what is the one thing that would stop you going? Vegan is there one food yes, that's a great cheese, milk, eggs, butter, dairy dairy, yeah, yeah, dairy would be hard I don't believe in it.

Michael:

to be honest with you, in veganism, seeing is believing. I don't believe in it. To be honest with you, in veganism, no, I don't believe that veganism is healthy. Why is that? Don't get me wrong. You know, reduction of, I think, vegetarian, fine, pescatarian, absolutely fine. It's the vegans that I think have got problems. You know you've got to have that egg protein. Okay, I get that. A lot of our food is awful, like the milk, terrible, unless you're getting like Jersey milk and really good cows.

Michael:

Would, you massage your cow. If you had a cow, would you reckon? Do you know what A cow is a very strong animal. I've been quite close to a cow once it's powerful.

Sameer:

Tell me something.

Michael:

How would?

Sameer:

you massage a cow From the udders or from the back.

Michael:

You can't hurt a cow physically with your own body. That's how strong a cow is.

Sameer:

What's a?

Michael:

cowl Simon.

Sameer:

Cowl. That would be a great name if you had a cow Simon Cowl.

Michael:

Yeah, you could put the cow in a headlock and it wouldn't feel a thing. Have you ever touched a sheep?

Sameer:

Have I ever touched a sheep? No, I'm not sure.

Michael:

I have A sheep is an odd animal when you get close to it.

Sameer:

I don't like people shearing sheeps because I find it quite grotesque. Why? I just don't like the whole idea of all this hair coming off Like it freaks me out why it's good.

Michael:

It's a woolly coat it just freaks me out.

Sameer:

I don't like it Like matted sheep's fur. I don't like that. You know the sheep needs to do that right I understand, but I don't like it. You know how? The sheep With its mouth? No, it would rub its body against rocks in the mountains.

Michael:

Oh, like a bear?

Sameer:

Not really. Yeah, bears get itchy. Yeah, itchy is not the same as Scratchy.

Michael:

A sheep's head is very weird to touch. Why have you touched it? Because I petted the sheep's head. I petted a sheep when, when you go to farms and there's a sheep and you're like hello, touch its head.

Sameer:

Okay, why is it weird? Why is it weirder than any other animal's head? It's very strong, it's very like Stronger than a cow.

Michael:

Yeah, harder than a cow, Definitely a sheep's head. What would win in a fight between a cow and a sheep? I'm not sure. I mean the cow's obviously stronger, but I'm not. I can't, I couldn't say it depends, tell me, does the sheep have a knife?

Sameer:

the sheep is fully got fur. Yeah, the cow is an Indian cow that is born and bred on the streets of Delhi. The fight is taking place in London. Yeah, okay, where's the?

Michael:

sheep from You're the referee. Where's the sheep from You're the referee? Where's the sheep from Devon?

Sameer:

Devon sheep, yeah, delhi cow Okay.

Michael:

You are the referee. Is there a?

Sameer:

weapon involved? No, they are weaponless. They're just ramming each other. Who wins? I think the sheep's going to win. You think a sheep can defeat?

Michael:

a cow, I think the Devon sheep will win.

Sameer:

yeah, depends how thick its coat is that Delhi cow has seen some rough times. Do you know her personally?

Michael:

I'm just saying.

Sameer:

I'm saying Born and bred on the streets of Delhi versus Devon. Have you ever touched a tortoise? I have Hard I've touched a baby tortoise in my hand. Oh, oh. In Sri Lanka I went to a little farm, have you?

Michael:

ever touched a ray. Who's he? A ray Like a fish.

Sameer:

No, I don't like stuff like that.

Michael:

Very weird. Isn't a ray, what killed Steve Irwin? I think that was a stingray.

Sameer:

Oh, what's the difference?

Michael:

There's many different rays. There's a stingray, there's a manta ray, there's rays, there's blue ray. I don't mind touching a blue ray.

Sameer:

What's the one animal I know this is kind of moving away from the reboot right, but just humor me what's the one animal that you would hate to come across um just you, and it one-on-one what in the dark, in the forest? Just just just right randomly in the woods. What one animal one animal that, if you saw, you would be like this is the one thing I didn't want to see. Obviously it wouldn't be a cow or a sheep. I think you'd be okay with that.

Michael:

Probably snake. Really A snake, yeah, a snake would fucking, it would stress me out, it would stress me out.

Sameer:

What if it wasn't poisonous Snake or polar bear? What if it wasn't?

Michael:

poisonous Polar bear probably A polar bear. Yeah, or an orca.

Sameer:

Or from Lord of the Rings.

Michael:

No, that's an orc, oh.

Sameer:

Oh yeah, that's an orc. An orca is a whale. We just said woods.

Michael:

Just for the record, I'd be scared if there was an orc.

Sameer:

You're more likely to find some idiot dressed as an orc in the woods than finding a whale in the woods.

Michael:

You asked me what animal. I told you.

Sameer:

Sorry. So you don't want to take that back. You don't want to take it back. The fact that you'll see a whale in the woods.

Michael:

I would be more scared of swimming with an orca than being in a room with a polar bear.

Sameer:

In this room.

Michael:

Yeah.

Sameer:

You if there was a polar? Oh man, it's scaring me now. If through that back door there a polar bear just walked in and just was there, right, that would scare you less than swimming with an orca.

Michael:

Yes, 100%, 100%, 100%.

Sameer:

Okay, what about?

Michael:

you, what animal would you be scared of most in this room, right now, in this room?

Sameer:

if, like I reckon, if a Komodo dragon just walked in through that back door. I would shit myself. I'd take the chips, I'd leave.

Michael:

I'd need something to just raise my blood pressure.

Sameer:

Komodo dragon Snake.

Michael:

Snake is more scary. Snake is very fast. Komodo dragon, he's not going to be able to climb over the sofa and get you, so this really isn't a reboot episode at all.

Sameer:

Just if anyone is listening, this is more of an episode about crisps and animals. Is that right? Would you say we've spoken more about animals than reboots. I feel a bit hot.

Michael:

I feel a bit hot under the collar here.

Sameer:

What animal would you reboot from the past? Oh, bringing it back into reboot and knocking in the animals.

Michael:

You like a knocking animal?

Sameer:

don't you? Yeah, tell me dodo why, why not?

Michael:

okay, fair enough. Have you ever seen a dodo?

Sameer:

I have in the natural history museum if you really have, yeah they've got, uh, stuffed one.

Michael:

Yeah, I saw one in the tring natural history museum stuff though you love that place, you know how big it is. Yeah, it's huge, man, it's huge it's massive, yeah, big.

Sameer:

But they used to shoot it because it was like the equivalent of their turkey.

Michael:

No, no, no, that's a miss, that's a misnomer, no no, sorry, how do you know?

Sameer:

were you around?

Michael:

because I read up about it when I went to a natural history museum recently. Okay, and why did they go extinct? They went extinct because when the sailors landed on the island, they introduced a vermin that ate all the eggs and the babies were dead and they couldn't reproduce.

Sameer:

Oh, so they didn't actually kill the dodo to eat the dodo?

Michael:

No, it's a misconception.

Sameer:

Oh, look at David Attenborough here.

Michael:

They did eat some dodos, of course, but the reason why the dodo population went extinct is because the vermin butchered all the eggs.

Sameer:

Do you know who wouldn't eat the dodo Polar bear? Vegans, bringing it back to the vegans. So I'm in favour of the vegans. I know you hate them.

Michael:

I don't hate the vegans. I never said I hate vegans.

Sameer:

What did you say? You looked in the camera and you said you don't agree with veganism.

Michael:

Yeah, I don't agree.

Sameer:

I agree with veganism, and if more vegans were around, the dodo would still be here. No, I think we should end it soon, because you're not looking well. You're going to ask me which animal I would bring.

Michael:

Why don't hat as well Woolly mammoth? Bring back woolly mammoth. What?

Sameer:

are we going to do with this episode? What are we going to do? We've recorded a bunch of shit. It's taken all of our evening. Yeah, there's been no structure. We said the reboot. We haven't spoken about anything For the record.

Michael:

this is what happens when we try and plan it.

Sameer:

We haven't done. I don't know what happened to my voice there.

Michael:

We haven't done anything. Have some water, you need some water.

Sameer:

We haven't done anything to do with reboots. What is a reboot? A reboot is something that has come out before and then come out again.

Michael:

Do you think you can reboot your life?

Sameer:

Oh, I, oh, I think it's possible. Yeah, I think I, you're not. It's not so much rebooting, because it's not the exact same thing. You're always evolving.

Michael:

I think that we make of it what we want we can press the reboot whenever we want to. Um, I think that people come into our lives for a season or a reason or a lifetime, and there's always, you know, an effect.

Michael:

But ultimately, I think the main thing is that you need to constantly be open to opportunity to look what's out there, and I think that is the key to the reboot, because by pressing that reboot, sometimes it's a refresh of your mindset. Anyway, that's all we've got time for this week. Um, thank you so much for listening. Um, smith, and he also had uh, no, just uh.

Sameer:

You know, take care of yourselves out there if you're going through a hard time, be kind to yourself and remember there's always time to press that reboot button if you ever need to.

Michael:

Um, thank you much for listening this week. Remember, please do follow, click like, subscribe and you can catch us on all podcast platforms. And remember, when life gets you down, be the best nothing's gonna ever keep you down.

Sameer:

You're the best around. Nothing's gonna ever keep you down.